CGTrader has the better platform from my point of view, better rates if i remember correct. Don't know if it's already mentioned in this thread, but in TS you have a refund system, when customer buyed your product has ability to bring back his money and it'll subracted from your earnings, if he doesn't like a model for some reason. This is hight quality female model with animation friendly topology. If CGtrader's advertisement budget is a problem, a Crowdfunding round may help. Maybe the home page should be a very simple page with only two huge buttons [CG models] and [3D Printing]. The rewords for selling objects from others could for example be 1 CGcredit for tier 1, 2 for tier2, 3 for tier3, 4 for tier4 and so on. its hard to run such a business so i hope cgtrader will survive in the future. In fact, 61% comes out against 40%, since the paypal commission on cgtrader is borne by the seller, the site pays commission on turbosquid. Sales dropped to almost nothing. I don't know how reputation points work for sellers, they may work fine if you're an actual modeler, but for end-users it's just a dead-end. It doesn't matter if the printing industry is growing fast. It's the artist that need to make a stand and simply take the short term loss from less traffic and exposure and join the marketplace that respects the artists. Also, trying to find an item that I already saw through the search is near impossible. I will leave the items here to see if cg trader does manage to change things around over the next 12 months and if not will simply sell them on turbosquid. How Can we get 94% of Royalty?? We will rather stick with cgtrader and know our models are safe, although the issue with finding CG models on the site is a little problem, but as long as they stay honest well be supporting them rather than supporting a bunch of thiefs and if we need to up our prices then so be it. Ebay and Amazon would be great for the cartoony non realistic stuff as well as 3D prints so long as people make sure to document the files appropriately and let people know it is 3D and not real. This used to be the case in TS as well, but the issue is being solved, this will have to happen here on CGTrader as well. No matter what the Wisdoms offer you now, they will make you pay x10 later once they are done with their competitors (again). No frankly, it's a bloody mystery. It is all about customer reputation and perception. Products should be grouped not only by name and category but also by poly count. All that time that we didn't have to spent dealing with Turbosquid bad support went to more time for artistic work. TurboSquid has stopped working in WM and lost some buyers in the middle East countries and Asia. Click here to submit yours . Yes, @limonadinis, I agree with you. Money rules! - CGTrader pays a LOT more than TS; TS *keeps* 60% unless you sell exclusively on their site and join their "Squid Guild". Work directly with a 3D artist for your project. Hello. CGTrader just doesn't have the exposure it needs yet to top Turbosquid but I am confident it will surpass it in time because of the quality of it's products but word of mouth is key in this business and people need to be talking more about them. Often offer to buy the models in 1020 times more expensive than the price at which the model was exhibited for sale. CG Trader. ;), My thoughts exactly.. 3d Printing could be very profitable (for CG Trader, and the modelers) Cgtrader better sell my shoes here than ts.plus webmoney plus royalty rate. Doing the same at Turbosquid feels as dreadful as applying for a driver's license. Dear Kanga you are absolutely right and on top of that you won't have to worry about their super buggy uploading system either. We will only contact you if there's a problem with an order. If you have any questions about these. We are currently working to redesign the homepage to show off both CG and 3D print ready models. At the moment i think its more a community of sellers and not so much of buyers. I left all but . Thanks for dropping by and great news about an eventual homepage re-design. TS is simply in decline getting worse and worse. But Also Turbosquid actively promotes models on their site with the use o. It is pretty awesome!!! I can easily imagine that serious clients who value their time very high, might choose TS over CGT without second thought. This would have probably be true for newcomers 5 years ago, but now that is different. Dear adentonclark, and resurrect it without that 3dprinting nonsense. Yes. @captainmarlowe Thanks a lot for a lot of valid points regarding search and categorization! They may not end up following your ideas, but they will certainly take them into account. They did so by making products that looked so much cooler than PCs and people were fooled and then eventually they made so much money that then they kept putting back into the product and eventually came out with the Ipad which even all Apple haters love. They said fraud protection is only reserved for exclusive sellers. Their only flaws are the lack of publicity and their search engine. To my repliers: I remember fighting them at length to try to put my brand name withing the model description or my website link and eventually lost the battle. There is plenty of "undercutters" everywhere and some short-sighted content developers that seem to only care about quick cash-grabs and most of the time doesn't even have enough data to state a valid opinion based on the contrast of facts over medium-long periods of time. Those are very interesting ideas to develop for the future. Fine details have been sculpted on the model down to pores and fine lines on the face and body. What that means is that customers have the illusion of it being the best site out there even if the quality of the products is way below CGTrader. In other words as an artist in TS you are not so well protected, as it's here at CGT. Ebay it's ALL about direct seller/customer relationship. When I started on cgtrader I had more sales than on TS. So it is, but it's a matter of time and CGTrader will be able to master these positions. I hope I'll have better selling results there. (Edge loops, quad poly, simple overall structure) Full Rigged with over 30 facial blendshapes and 20+ skin morph targets in order to produce better rig quality and remove some joints issues such as overlaped knees, stretched hips, etc. Hopefully we can find a way that would plrase all sides. Selling 3D models on Ebay or Amazon would probably generate problems? - Limiting free objects to, let's say licensed objects like Stars Wars or Lego or whatever in an unlimited number, but to a few when it comes to "showcase" objects, let's say, 4 to 5 per designer, to help potential buyer judge the overall quality of the seller objects Over the years they have shown me that they really care about we think about the way things should be run and they have been adapting the website based on our combined ideas. Doesn't seem so. CGtrader has been growing steadily faster than Turbosquid for several years, that's why they are making this desperate "first blood" move asking their Investors for an extra cash to buy Sellers out against Marius and his people, with the promise that they will fuck you to death later once the war is won for the #SquidClan. That is where the true value of 3D is today but unless someone can show the masses that this kind of thing can be done at a reasonable price ,(based on market value), then 3D will continue to be a half dead market until it will die completely because robotics have reached an advanced stage where they will soon be able to replace artists. TurboSquid goes down, It becomes miserable the users are ,,working from behind,, ! I like this site more, because, firstly, it has a much more pleasant and understandable interface, gives a higher percentage of the sale (on a TS, it looks more like a tip if you are not a member of their club), and generally it works more stable. But there are questions that are not achievable for TS, and they will not go to such steps, and it is this: 1. I removed all products from TS. Although I agree the presentation of CGtraders home page is heavily focused at 3D printing, NoneCG did not suffer ANY drop in sales. I don't know if that is still the case ( and I have no desire to check ) but that is advertising that is hard to beat. I was stunned to get informed there was no fraud protection (yes people, you pay 60% cut and get no fraud protection). I have no problem with a site offering an option for seller/buyer to find quality print-ready products. $300 + (280) $200 to $300 (315) $100 to . A client would normally ALWAYS choose a cheaper price, that's a law of nature. Hopefully that would make squids to react. taken offline. And yes .. "CG Trader has made their world about 3d printing". Turbosquid is butt ugly and greedy, I hope when CG gets bigger than TS, they don't end up the same way. (I prefer not to learn/spent time to handle all the different 3D applications and conversions) Send of two customers so far (here on CGt), hoe asked for a maya version of this model. So it was sorted in your favor afterall? Also the management is awkward on TS. Basically just like Turbosquid has done they have become the one stop shop for everything. What I eventually hope to have is a healthy fair open market place, where collaboration , communication, people empowerment and evolution prevails over control systems, central power structures, monopolistic thinking, and maintaining of a status qou. This industry really needs a giant hub were al CGpeople (weather young and inexperienced ore diehard veterans) can communicate, learn, trade, fundraise and collaborate. This is inherently due to the fact that computers are still very bad when it comes to optimization processes, human brains are far more superior in sorting out things. Fantasy is a bit better, but sic-fi gets me 10 copyright infringements on the first page alone (star wars characters, mainly). If a model you like does not have a suitable file format, be sure to see whether the designer offers free file conversions for the model. How about the Royalty Rate??? This is due to discrimination in the pricing policy of the "TS" site. If CGT wants to play big and attract high quality traffic and designers/buyers, it has to invite the sellers to opt for a more mature approach in my humble opinion. CGtrader has already surpassed Turbosquid in every Rank, and it has +1 million visits too: https://www.similarweb.com/website/cgtrader.com/?competitors=turbosquid.com, If anything buyers should get lots of points for buying. This would allow genuine potential buyers to check the quality of models.
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